MOSS ID PLEASE

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    I receive pieces of moss yesterday to add to my collection, but not 100% what the are.

    The 1st pect left and 2nd pic I believe it is Cameroon Moss.

    3rd Pic: is a sort of Subwassertang but it have a 'spine' in the leave.

    1ste pic right hand and 4th pic: Is it Rose Moss or a Fissidens Variant?

    Please help. Tx.[​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]

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    Monosolenium tenerum,
    hold onto this one. I'd very much like to get some from you again at some point in time. Lost mine a while back.
    Also commonly (however erroneously) referred to as Pellia. It's a liverwort, whereas Süsswassertang is a fern gamethophyte.
     
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    Tx R.C
    Highly appreciate!
    And the other two?[​IMG]

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    Unfortunately won't be able to give a positive ID from photo's, but does look like Plagiochila sp.
    One could be Plagiochila Integerrima and the other Plagiochila sp. 'Cameroon'
     
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    I can work with those and get back to you.

    Tx

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    I am still having difficulties to positively ID the moss on the right.

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    Hi Trevor
    I do believe the left Moss isindeed Cameroon moss. (Plagiochilaceae sp. Cameroon Moss)
    https://www.floraquatic.com/mousses-et-hepatiques/3143-plagiochilaceae-sp-cameroon-moss.html

    However, the one one right which we thought is Rose Moss is actually the Willow moss for which you send the link.
    https://www.aquasabi.com/aquatic-plants/mosses/fontinalis-antipyretica

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    When you collected I mentioned that the right moss in your pic was almost certainly willow moss, but was sold as Cameroon. The one of the left is probably Cameroon looking at pics of the web, but was sold as one of the rose mosses. To confuse things further I got four or five unusual mosses which I had never seen before and there were two types of rose moss one they called mini rose and the other labelled abbey rose. When I moved them into a high tech tank their form seemed to change quite a bit so more confusing.

    Here are the tanks where they came from originally .

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    a few months later after cuttings grown out in low tech, high tech looked different :)



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    OMW Trevor
    Looks awesome!
    Ja....very confusing indeed.
    Do you still have some clippings of the other 2?

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    I'm really hoping I do bud, but not sure I can tell them apart and also given that their form changed..
    Would you say that what they have labelled mini rose in their shop tank, is the same moss as in my last pic and probably Cameroon ? You can see in their bottom tank they have labelled another moss as Cameroon :)
     
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    Trevor
    On Wednesday I have spend loads of hours and consumed huge amount of data googling and searching Moss. Looking for positive ID on those I have and what I still want to obtain.

    And even the names from web site to website differes. So I started to make use or refer to Latin names.

    One of my biggest surprises was Java moss as we know it have 2 different Latin names.

    Java moss
    'Vesicularia dubyana' (Brotherus, 1908)
    Or
    'Taxiphyllum barbieri' (Cardot & Copp.)
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_moss

    To complicate things even more you have
    'Vesicularia dubyana' sold as 'Christmas Tree Moss' locally.

    And to top it, you have 'actual' Chrismas moss (Vesicularia montagnei). Also on the pic.

    Its a mess to be honest.

    Then you have Rose Moss 'Rhodobryum roseum' see picture. If you look at the back ground the leave composition looks very much like the Cammeroon moss but the tip open like a 'rose'.

    I found another moss,also called Rose Moss, but did not save the link unfortunately. I had 20 open web pages. This rose moss was loose standing. I recall that one retailer did advertise it months ago but stock never arrived. Will search again and if possible add a pic or link here.[​IMG][​IMG]

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    3 identical pics
    2 = Peacock Moss 'Taxiphyllum Sp. and the other one is called China Moss but not Latin Name[​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]

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    If you do have any of the other 2 moss species, does not matter how small, I would love to get my hands on it and have a look myself.
    That is if you can spare it. Please!

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    I have big tanks and sometimes forests of plants so things tend to come or disappear, well that's my excuse anyway :)
    Currently for example I can't seem to find any MC when I had buckets of it a year ago. I did not see blyxa in my tank for several years, now all of a sardine I got a carpet full of them, some seeds were evidently unearth when removing an old piece of hardscape.

    The point being that with the moss I need to work out what's still there and slash my way into the jungle, uncharted territory.
    I think that rose type moss in your first pic came from the TB tank if I remember correctly, this on closer inspection seems a bigger leaf shape than in another low tech tank, as here the leaves are half the size, perhaps this is the mini rose and you have the larger variety or Cameroon.

    Just keep those amanos coming and we can trade, lol.
    By the way they have tripled in size and the first females are now in berry.
    Definitely Amanos !
     
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