Legalization of fresh water shrimps

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    While I applaud your efforts Hennie, the cost of importing decent quality shrimp, I'm talking about neos here, will I feel be too exorbitant for the majority of potential new hobbyists, especially considering the devaluation of the Rand. On the upside the majority of shrimp available overseas are now being bred locally and will be more readily available soon, they are already starting to circulate here. When good quality shrimp were somehow still being imported here eighteen months or more ago the demand was minimal given the cost, with say King Kongs going for over R400 a shrimp together with the high risks involved with taking on imported stock and the predictable fall out over the first month or two. What in my opinion is more seriously lacking here than good quality shrimp is the massive volume of shrimp goodies, foods and potions available abroad and what are pretty essential in the hobby and with keeping quality shrimp. It's a rapidly growing industry abroad so clearly a gap in the market here.
     
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    What stops people making these available here? Most stuff can be manufactured here, in SA.
     
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    yes as I say there's a gap in the market, but then we are not making ADA yet are we ? :)

    sorry there was a 'not' missing in my previous post in the first line.. it should have read - 'I'm not talking about neos here"
     
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    I do think once it is all clear and on the white list, more bulk orders can be done with no more risk of stock being converscated from customs. With bulk orders comes smaller price tags, and this is why this is so important. Petshops are to scared to import stock due to loss of revenue and converscated stock. I think this will open the market, and from there the good quality shrimp goodies will start coming in, because of tis gap in the market. And off course the afordability of better quality shrimp.
     
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    I hear you hennie, so let's see..

    I use this argument as many decent quality fish and varieties that are available abroad are on the white list here, but are still not being imported and scarce, after all it's Africa :)
     
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    And no idea why.. I did ask a few companies for a rotating kiln, but none replied.. that is how SA operates.. :) then they worry that they have no business.
     
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    Agreed, I think its the South African market demand on these fish, as Shauns import proved that there is a market. Problem is the risk, just as Shaun`s import also proved. Unfortunately our demand here for those fish is not high enough, and so the price TAG stays high, and most hobbiest dont even know those fish exhists. I think this hobbie is still very new in SA, but slowly growing. You know we are always a couple of years behind other leading countries, but eventually we will get there in good time.
     
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    Great news,
    There is definitely a market for Amano shrimp here.
    and not at the silly prices I heard of last week.
     
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    Thanks for the link. Getting right on it
     
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    So while I am here let me just give a quick update. SO as usual, the government is slightly behind the assesement, but are currently bussy with it. We should get our results in end May, June as they are tracking a bit behind on their work and are short staffed. I did recieve an ppology mail from them about 2 weeks ago.

    Almost there ;)
     
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    At least they are busy with it...thanx Hennie
     
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    Awesome news Hennie, tax for the feedback


    Nate
     
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    Thanks dude :notworthy::hello2:
     
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    Good news Hennie, can it take that when you say 'almost there' you are referring to the powers that be applying themselves to at least make a decision, whatever that is..?
     
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    Hi Hennie,

    We have communicated about this on numerous occassions and I have indicated to you that I am sceptical about this.

    This morning I have received this article in a daily mail notification about freshwater crayfish. This does not bode well for your shrimp application. Sorry to post this negative information, but I am being realistic. This is what your application is up against.

    http://theconversation.com/freshwat...rgotten invaders wreaking havoc across Africa

    Kind regards,

    Dirk
     
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    Hmmm, the article seems a bit vague and flirts a little with sensationalism, in my uneducated opinion.. But very relevant and important issue of course! And an illustration of how careful we need to be with importing new species. However, I hope it is only people who don't know better that will extrapolate the consequences of freshwater crayfish to ornamental shrimp, rather than those doing the risk assessment.
     
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    Also think it's a wasted effort. Especially since some of the local shops and shrimp importers started selling and importing crayfish. They killing this application for us all. I was close to start doing something about it myself.

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    Dirk, regardless of the authorities pending decision on this, what are your thoughts on the threats or impact ornamental shrimp would potentially have on South African inland waters ? My thoughts are that 95% of these hybridized varieties would not survive here, but perhaps some of the tougher and hardier wilder neo varieties and amanos might well make it in certain water bodies here, and there is no way the authorities would want to take this gamble or the extensive research required to find out, so much easier just to continue banning their import sadly.
     
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    Well said.

    But down to the matter at hand. Is the reason it is taking so slowly to get to a finalization of the matter -due to cash/finance and lack thereof? Or is it a case of research and generating data necessary? (My assumption is ->) Is it not oblivious that ornamental shrimp pose no threat to the environment/ecology?
     
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    I would suggest ornamental shrimp and dwarf crayfish would simply all be lumped together by the authorities as freshwater inverts and the potential threats they might pose, but hope I'm wrong..
     
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