water changer

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    Cool, thanks for the info Wolf!
     
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    But I do WC's more regular during the week than just once a week. Is 2 days enough to not use Prime and what about Stability? Would one need a air stone in the bin?
     
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    I would leave it out for a bit longer than two days as it takes a while for the chlorine and chloramine molecules to break down and become non-toxic to your fish. Correct me if I am wrong but you would generally use stability when you are setting up a tank and when you clean your filter as it helps develop your biological filtration by adding bacteria culture to the water so you do not need to add it when performing a normal WC. You also do not need to perform WC that often unless your filter is bad or your tank is over stocked. I would recommend leaving the water out for at least 4-5 days just to be safe and that you do not do as many water changes. (If you are doing a large water change (40% or over) then I would recommend using stability).
     
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    @Shaun, "gwhite" keeps and are also trying his hand at breeding Discus, hence him doing more frequent water changes.

    Standing water for 24hours is generally good enough where chlorine is concerned. With chloramine however, standing or even aerating won't suffice.

     
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    I did not realise that he was breeding discus, sorry. The chloramine bond can be broken over a very long time but we (generally) do not have any in our tap water as South Africa has a very small percentage allowed.

    Sorry for the inconvenience and any confusion caused
     
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    @ ShaunsAquariums, no need for an apology and yes this would be for my Discus breeding tank but also my display tank.

    @ R.C., I have SO much spare activated carbon that I could make a plan for the bin. But would 24 hours suffice for removing the Chloramine?
     
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    I really don't think it would dude. Just get prime. It lasts so long!
     
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    Okay, so add the prime and let the water sit for 24 hours in the bin then heat up the water to the required temperature is better than doing a WC from the tap on the day using prime and stability?
     
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    I'm not sure about discus but for normal fish, just prime is enough. Adding stability is just nice and good for ur tank but not needed. People mainly use this at the beginning of a tank to "seed" the tank with bennificial bacteria.

    I do add bacteria after each water change. But that's cos I have lots left over. When I run out of it, I won't add any more..
     
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    Right so filled up bin with fresh water from the tap, added Prime and Stability, a pump and a 300W heater which has all been running since yesterday morning. Lid of the bin has been left slightly open to allow excess gas out. Is this the correct method?
     
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    sounds good to me.. i dont do this technique so maybe see what the others have to say..
     
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    Yeah this is correct, I fill my bin on Tuesday evenings add my prime and put on my 500lph pump it runs for 2 hours and off for 4 hours continuously.
    The next morning I put my heater on and when it it time for wc Wednesday evening all is ready and waiting :occasion14:
     
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    @ Puntius, is there a reason why you let your pump run for 2 hours and off for 4 hours and only heat the morning of your WC?
     
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    No reason just do see the reason to have the pump running for 24hours it works fine for me like this. Also the same with the heater, you only need the water warm the evening of the water change. This is the way I have been doing this for months and it works very very well for me. I then empty the amount of water out of the tank and then I pump the new aged water back into the tank with a 1800lph pump finish en klaar :occasion14:
     
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    Great :thumb: Like you said if its been working for you with that method then that is what matters!
    Think I might just leave the pump on for 24 hours but I agree with heater only coming on the day of the water change. Thanks
     
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    Yeah all has been working very nicely for me, if you want to run the pump for 24 hours go for it. Rather save then sorry.
    Pleasure :occasion14:
     
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    Great, yes that was my thinking by rather being safe than sorry especially when it comes to Discus! Wonder if I should not drop of bag of activated carbon :scratch:
     
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    Yes you can that will also remove any other heavy metals :occasion14:
     
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    Thank you! Final question, would the activated carbon have to be located within the pump or could it be just dropped in within a bag?
     
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    Sure it will be fine if you just drop it in the bin the water movement will pass trough it.
     

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