Staghorn Algae

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    Hi all!! :)

    Well as the subject states I have a issue with SHA.

    I changed my tank over to a lower light tank without c02 a while back.Everything was running great with NO algae atall.

    Before change: ( Running for about 3 months )

    110 liter tank +-
    Little dosing
    112 watts at 10 hours a day.
    DIY CO2

    Had no algae atall but my time became limited.Tank was very stable and looking awsome.

    Due to time issues i changed the tank to a low maintanince tank.

    110 liter tank +-
    No dosing
    56 watts at 6 hours a day.
    removed C02

    The tank was runnig great for about 1 and half months.Plants was still doing good and no algae.Removed some of the swords during this period.

    Now about a week and a half ago Staghorn algae started to bloom...no other algae is present.

    I have been doing daily 30% waterchanges sinice it started but nothing is working.I have removed as much of teh algae manually aswell as the leaves affected buy it.

    Also i have started to give a little c02 again.Also light period reduced to 4 hours.

    Sofar the algae have slowed down a little bit but still growing.

    I do not test my water so do not have figures but with the waterchanges it should be low.And after all i have loads of plants in there.Mostly slow growers.

    Any ideas guys?
     
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    thats that hairy algae that likes growing on the leaves of the plants? is it brown or green?
     
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    Hi man.

    Its a single branching algae...dark green to black in color.

    It likes low c02 levels and high iron.

    Just found that black mollies love this algae.Going to test it.
     
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    does it look anything like these?

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    Hi.

    No not atall.

    Its somtimes confused with thread algae which have beared and hair algae falling under it which is in your photo.

    Link to photo of staghorn algae and exactely how it looks in my tank.

    http://www.otocinclus.com/articles/algae.html
     
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    co-incedently enough my setup that i converted to low light with no CO2 also ran smoothly for a few months, and now i have the bearded algae shown in that article... it formed on the java fern and anubia leaves in my shelly setup, but not all of it is dark in color, some green hairy pieces too...
     
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    Bearded algae which you have is something totally diff but just as nasty.

    I just cannot find the cause of the algae.Its fustrating.LOL!

    Anybody know where we can maybe find true simensis? I have seen them around but not much.

    They should sort out both our problems.
     
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    never in my life will a flying fox enter my waters again....... ive learnt my lesson....
     
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    Flying fox is not a true simensis.Its on of the simensis look alikes.
     
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    Had one of those, a so called "Siamese Flying Fox" ;D

    A very aggresive little bugger ;D
     
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    exactly my experience... had 4 of them and they ganged up on all the other fish and beat them up occasionally... the dwarf cichlids were extremely on the edge with them around, since the foxes went back to the LFS eveything in the tank has a much happyer existance...
     
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    HEHEHE my friend bought 6 for me by mistake and my leaf fish......mmmm anyway if anybody spots the true one let me know.

    Only way to tell is that they have no colors in there fins and the black horizontal line runs into the tail fin.

    Ive only seen them at Na.
     
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    Hi all.

    Well if Staghorn algae have nightmares its defn about Mollies.

    They eat this stuff like crazy.Only have 2 and they have cleaned up 80% of the tank in about 4 days.
    Also very funny to watch them eat.
     
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    About two weeks ago I said in a post on this forum that I had no algae. Talk about tempting fate.... I now have quite a bit of staghorn and some hair algae :'(

    I've been looking for ways to deal with the algae and I can't find much. Actually I find tonnes of pages with conflicting advice. The only reliable advice I've found so far is Tom Barr's last Barr Report which dealt with Red Algae.

    He says that limiting light wont help at all, nor will limiting phosphates etc. According to the article the only effective method of dealing with red algae is having a constant supply of CO[sub]2[/sub]. I.E. It can be switched of over night but the day time concentrations should be kept constant.

    I'm using DIY CO[sub]2[/sub] so that does not make me happy...


    So I'm now looking for practical methods of dealing of the algae.

    So far this is what I have

    1. Try get my DIY CO[sub]2[/sub] to be more stable. Check CO[sub]2[/sub] levels and replace old yeast mixes if necessary.
    2. Get a Molly or two (thanks d3tained)
    3. Glare menacingly at the algae


    Is there anything else I can try? I'd rather not use bleach or other chemicals unless things get completely out of hand.

    Thanks for any help.
     
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    Hi man.

    Well adding Mollies will take care of the current problem but def will not sort out the cause of the problem so its only temp.

    Staghorn Algae hates high level C02 as I have read ( Same as you ) but keeping C02 levels stable in Yeast DIY setup can be very tricky.

    Just keep your eye on teh C02 Yeast Thread...test with us...we can find a more stable way.

    For now replace your Mix add little sugar activate your yeast and add some sort of energy drink or whatever contains Vitamins and protiens.And DO NOT use tap water, either declhorinate or use tank water.

    Keep me updated.

    Im currenly pushing up c02 levels in the tank and trying to keep it stable.
     
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    It must be something in the air because I also have that fuzzy staghorn algae... and my mollies dont touch it.

    I have stable high CO2 and its not really helping at all
     
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    Very weired.

    If you guys can please post pictures of your algae so that I can see if its Staghorn Algae or Algae from the thread Algae family.
     
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    Two pics of my staghorn

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    And some other green algae I have

    [​IMG].


    I've checked and my CO[sub]2[/sub] is low. So the CO[sub]2[/sub] theory does seem to be sound. I'm going to try the new CO[sub]2[/sub] formula and see what happens. I may also get a molly just to get rid of the current algae.

    I'll let you know if the additional CO[sub]2[/sub] works.
     
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    Hi.

    Yep that is def staghorn algae...Mollies should do the trick for now or physically remove as much as possabile untill you get your CO2 sorted out.
     

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