Snail Debate

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    What do all you people on this forum have against snails!? :) I'm noticing a lot of threads with people trying to eradicate "pest" snails, I fully understand personal preference but why all the hate guys?

    Seriously though what are your reasons for getting rid of the little buggers?

    The way I see it they do more good than harm, Trumpets airate your substrate and despose of any waste and I've never had a ramshorn damage even the most sensitive plant! The same cant be said of loaches!!!

    I love my Ramshorns:
    [​IMG]


    Ps. Im not advicating the importing and buying of exotics like apple snails (which are highly invasive IMO) just the keeping of the inevitable hitchhikers...
     
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    Its hard running a fishroom without ramshorns to clean up. They are super little algae munchers!
     
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    I think most people get irritated when they have a snail explosion due to overfeeding, I like those ramshorns as well but I cannot say the same for Trumpet snails or any other snail for that matter.
     
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    I want assassin snails.
     
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    +1
     
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    Malaysian trumpet snails often carry a parasitical hitchhiker that is an utter pest...hard to eradicate and kills your fish one by one...ask Vez about that... they also VERY quickly breed to a point where the strain they place on your biofiltration far outweighs that of your fish...their constant burrowing also disturbs plant roots...

    I guess Ramshorns arnt all that bad... but I keep plants and fish - snails are just a visual eyesore to me...
     
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    +1 saw his entire schoal of congo tetra's perish from a disease MTS carried onto the fish.
     
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    Yip, I want to keep fish and plants and snails have never been part of my equation 8)
     
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    I don't mind Ramshorns, I do however remove pond snails. They love to nibble on plants!
     
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    Re: Re: Snail Debate


    Interesting, I've heard snails can carry desieses/ parasites but havent heard of someone actually having first hand issues. It would be nice if Vez could comment, how was the causality attributed to the MTS?

    Trumpet snails are definatly an issue if you want carpets like HC ot ug, but a simple solution is to place a whisky glass( once its been finished) with some pellets in your tank at night and wait about an hour, do that a few times and their numbers will be marginal..

    I remove them too but just because they're ugly, havent had them bug plants! It is cool the way they surf under the surface eating that protien skimm though...

    Haha thats a parodox!
     
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    I also like my (inevitable, unintended) snails, I even feel bad when I feed some to my puffers :p
     
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    I have a flourishing Malaysian Trumpet Snail colony in my tank. In my opinion I believe that they are by far the best snail to have in your tank. They stir up the substrate and also eat the detritus that is buried underneath the sand. Think of them as earthworms in your garden. The benefits they give are similar. Also you can easily control their population by not over feeding.

    As for snails that spoil "the look" I find it rather annoying that the hobby has turned to be more visually appealing it us instead of catering for the actual creatures living in it. Snails are part of the natural ecosystem of were our fish live they are a natural part of it and in my opinion should be included in every tank were possible. Just my opinion though.
     
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    Re: Re: Snail Debate

    I find it theraputic "popping" snails against the glass, there's a wierd satiafaction to it, kinda like bubble wrap...

    Colorful Ramshorn snails.

    Cool thread I didnt realise there were different variants, always thought the colors were diet related.. :-

    Makes sense now though! I've got leopards and and reds (purely by chance)

    [​IMG]
     
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    I like MTS as well. No disease issues so far in what must be over 20 years of fish and snails.

    I understnad the issues with ug and HC but glosso seems to tough it out with the MTS.

    As for erradication: kribensis LOVE them to death (but would do a number on the HC and ug). Otherwise, invite Phil over for some bubble-wrap therapy.
     
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    My German Rams and Male Betta also likes to chow them if they get half the chance.
     
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    MTS are awesome if you dont have a granular clay based aquasoil. they will turn this to mud very quickly.

    as for the rest, most of the time i don't mind them, but they are quite an eye sore in photo's and if there are lots, they can be a pain..
     
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    Love my MTS, just have to do some "natural culling" from time to time when my poor bristlenose starts to loose the battle against them for his own algae pellet, lol. Love the way they hide underground etc... favourite party trick is to show first time guests at home how the snails just appear from underground with a bit of food...
    +1 for having a full ecosystem and added to that I think they're actually cute - don't agree they degrade the aesthetics of a tank...
    +1 for having MTS for years with no ill affect on plants and fish.

    Only bad experience I had was with a dead apple snail years ago that by the time I noticed it, had decayed and put so much nitrite into my tank I lost half my fish, including a golden nugget. That was the last I ever kept apple snails.
     
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    From my perspective, the reason most people don't like snails is because they didn't ask for them to be there in the first place. Most people don't like having no choice about things so when they are forced into a situation, they reject the idea of it. Pure psychology if you ask me. No i am not a psychologist by profession haha.
     
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    Yip, I'd probably be irritated with that too. My snails were by choice only. Maybe I've been lucky but I've also been very selective from where I get my plants.
     

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