Ostrich Fillet for Discus

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    Hi all

    A couple of months ago I was chatting to Rowland and he mentioned with regards to the making of a meat mix by using Ostrich Fillet opposed to Ox/Beef Heart. So I gave it a bash on mixing 1kg. Reading the nutritional value on the pack it has a protein of 30% and 2% fat content, far better then the conventional BH.( yea yea I know it’s a bit on the pricey side)

    So here is how I made 1kg of "OF"
     
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    Very cool Peter. I'm sure your discus will love it.

    From what I know, doesn't spirulina loose it's nutritional value when exposed to light?
     
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    wow! alot of cats mate
     
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    I like the cats

    Nice one Peter. Your discus are going to grow pretty well with that stuff.
     
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    Nice Recipe Peter, perhaps I can offer some to my mother in law :)

    The cats are hilarious, I can just imagine the commotion they must have been making!
     
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    Jeepers. Looks like you're breaking out in chronic cats. Are you sure you're not a spinster? </stereotype>

    looks like tasty food.

    Particularly in solution with garlic and butter :)
     
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    Hi Peter,

    I have purchased all the ingredients of your recipy, so I will now try it out (for my discus ofcourse).
    I have one query, and that is, "What's the Spirulina for?"
     
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    Feeding Spirulina.  
     
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    Hi

    Yep......cat's become my best buddies when they see me hard at work, very willing to help me clean up   ;D ....they even get to lick the bowl..
    But definitely no "spinster"
     
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    Hi Peter & RC,

    RC, thanks a lot for the link! It puts me totally in the know about "Feeding Spirulina"
    Isn't the internet wonderful!

    Peter, "you can say that again"! This hobby is something else!
    After cutting up the "Mix" into 10 x 10mm blocks, I put one block into the tank to see what happens.
    The discus checked out this block carefully for a few moments then moved away, probably because the other fish in the tank were literally fighting each other to get a piece, which soon dissapeared. So I hope the discus will get bold enough to get their share in future.
    My hound dog, just like your cats, was very interested while I was making the "mix", and got to lick out the bowls and trays I used. Some friends of mine came to visit while I was making the "mix" and said that they would like to come back (in their next life) as a fish in my tank!
    This is not a cheap recipy!
     
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    lol.......but we should get some really big discus. Try cutting the 10 x 10 into smaller pieces giving your discus a better chance to get some, it took 2 days before mine realized how lekker it was and now I have a frenzy at every feeding time.
     
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    Hi Peter,

    My two cobalt Blue Discus have now taken to eating some, but the two larger "Browns" still haven't come to taste.
    One thing though, I put the "blocks" in still frozen, and when the fish attack it they break up in "clouds" of fragments. Will these minute particles the fish don't eat, contaminate the water?
     
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    Hi Nicolaas

    If the mix is breaking up to easily then there doesn’t seem to be enough binding from the gelatin so you might need to increase the amount on you next batch or the mix is fine and when your discus take a bite which might be to big for them to swallow so they will spit it out and re catch it in a smaller piece so the rest will scatter. So rather cut it into smaller blocks and feed little amounts at a time to minimize wastage and only to an amount they are capable of eating with in +-10min. if they are still hungry then feed more in small amounts, until you get a feel for how much they want per feed. Over feeding any food could "contaminate"
     
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    Hi Peter
    Ostrich fillet is of the highest protein meat available, better than ox heart.
    I also mix my own. Firstly you do not need gelotine as the prawn meat holds the lot together.
    I have found using garlic, it always remains after the discus have eaten the meat, suggestion, drain the garlic oil over your mix instead of using garlic. My fish love it, and nothing remains. I also use Astosanthin which is the best colour inharnser, totally natural as it is a red algae powder. Unfortunately very very expensive and only available from Overseas suppliers at a price. You can get some in South Africa but you got to buy an X amount(Kg) at R2000.00 pkg. You only require a small amount when mixing so it will last you a long time.
    I thought I will just mention it.
     
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    Hi Philip

    Great to meet you and thanks for the tips
    I know.....at first I couldn’t find the stuff, then I had a puppy when I discovered the local prices, I’ve been chatting to David and he sells pure Astaxanthin at S$300.00 per kg ex P&P, so I hope to get 1kg at month end. What was recommended is 1 teaspoon per 1kg meat mix, so based on that it will last me a couple of years. What I’m hoping to do, is recant in 50g and sell it, this way others who are interested, can get some in smaller amounts still at cost of S$15.00. Do you sell it?
     
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    Hi peter
    i can sell you a couple of grams, I just do not want to run out myself.
     
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    Hi

    I was just wondering, once thawed in water wouldnt this mixture just fall apart leaving tiny bits floating around the aquarium? Or does the gelatine more or less hold it together?

    Thanks!
     
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    Hi Philip

    Thank you... let me rather bring it in and have a supply, if anybody also would like some can PM me :thumb:

    Howdy Michael

    I haven’t had too much success without the use of gelatine and need it for that extra bit of binding to hold it together. My next batch I will resist temptation and increase the percentage of prawn meat and see how it goes.
     
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    Hi Michael
    The prawns used in the mixture hold it together.No gelatine required.
     
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    Thanks :) I think I will try something like this soon...
     

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