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    Added a normal t5 to the back for some fill-in light ... now I can get sightly better pics.

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    Tanks looking very filled in! Do you run all your tanks with guppies and plants? You seem to grow enough for everything. I swear you grow hardscape too :p
     
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    Most tanks have guppies ... all relevant tanks have plants of some sorts *algae counts right ;-).

    Maybe guppies are my CO2 source ... hmmm

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    now growing hardscape .. that will be a cool trick.

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    Man that's green! Is that a water sprite carpet? And... Is that crinum I spy?

    Guppies could well be giving you CO2 :D
     
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    Not Water sprite carpet ... that would be a cool trick under this low light - no clue what the name is.
    Yeah that is a Crinum calamistratum aqua empire has been getting stock in regularly, think it is also sourced via plantae ... kinda works in this tank ...


    no regrets going akadama in this tank.


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    It looks a lot like water sprite to me :)

    Oh that's cool! Would kill for crinums but the price is prohibitive, was more than R200 last time. Is it growing well? :)
     
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    For whatever the reason Water Sprite - Indian Fern - does not do well with me.

    Yeah .. and a 500g t-bone with sauce is about the same https://www.spur.co.za/menu/steaks/ depending how many beers you have that could be well over the price of a crinum. It was a bit dormant, but the leaves are looking good under the lights now.

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    My water sprite does well floating in more still water. Then it spreads rapidly :)

    Great that the crinum is growing :)
     
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    Playing with a COB grow light full spectrum.

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    I've actually seen comparisons of full spectrum light to daylight balanced light and the results were pretty interesting. There are comparisons on YouTube as well.

    Plants grew slower in full spectrum but increased production of Chlorophyll B which turned the leaves a darker shade of green.

    Keen to see what it does in your tank and if it the blue part of the spectrum encourages algae growth like I've read.
     
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    Beautiful setup, I love the plant growth and the busy colourful look of the guppies :wave:
     
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    Yeah guppies are easy going .. so they belong.

    As for the full spectrum vs daylight balanced .. I wonder what the true result is for aquarium use .... since different spectrum is absorbed differently.

    One thing that was noticed, when I put the glass cover on and the red and blue grow lights had to first pass through the glass, growht slowed down and I dare say some algae started to show ...

    Running this also via the glass cover .. but loads more light into the mix.

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    Someone should pay you to run all these tests Ferdie. You've been doing this for as long as I can remember and your experiences have made a valuable contribution to the hobby.
     
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    Lol ...

    Nah that would not be fun, money has a way of causing the wrong behavior ...

    Talking about contribution to the hobby, much has gone so commercial that very few people can get into the hobby in an affordable way. I dare say we have lost some of the hobby component, since almost for every problem one has a commercial cure. Point in case .. the jacking of your tank with CO2 - liquid or otherwise. Have seen brilliant growth of ground cover in outside tanks this year - no CO2 in sight, not even fish in the tank. Just good old shaded sunlight - not even filtration or aeration. Now the Why's start in my mind ...

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    Professor Dirk did mention and was pretty detailed about how softer water naturally dissolves more CO2 from there air and that there's no need for CO2 injection. That entire article can be found here - http://www.apsa.co.za/xenforo/threa...ry-in-water-with-low-carbonate-hardness.2152/

    What I think is happening in your unattended tubs is pretty interesting. Your plants may be releasing enough CO2 at night to support them in the morning. There may also be microorganisms in there that have created a mini ecosystem.
     
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    @TankMaster what a great read ... man social media is killing good content, since I only joined APSA in 2010 .. I clearly missed out on some seriously great debates, but good to have taken a stab at it now.

    We stand on the shoulders of giants ...

    Thinking back to the tanks outside ... loads of leaves that I assume would contribute to the theory of lower KH ... so the entire hypothesis talks rather well to what might have been happening in the tank.

    This has me thinking should one be adding more material leaves, seed pods, dead flowers to the indoor tanks and recreate some of that external environment?

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    My wondering is, more CO2 can be held in the softer water but what's giving that CO2?

    More material can certainly look cool :)
     
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    That would be the cheapest way to 'buffer' KH but, you'd have to deal with tannins. Rooibos, peat moss or just dry fruit tree leaves are cheap too!

    Using rain water would be another option. I assume your outdoor tub is exposed enough to top up when it rains? If you can collect rain, you may have soft water for free. The problem with this is that you'd need to collect enough of it to get through the dry season and you may want to pre-filter through carbon media to remove pollutants.

    Investing in an RO filter is probably as costly as investing in pressurized CO2. So there's no point, unless you already have an RO filter.

    @Hendre , everything is in the article above. The professor makes mention of how it is comparable to leaving distilled water open overnight and explains why it's pH fluctuates due to increased absorption. Read the article. Even if you don't want to read the bulk of the science, it will still help explain, as he uses layman's terms to try and do this too.





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    Happy days .... not sure why this tastes better than the rest of the algae.

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    Did a rip and remove during the week ...

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    So now things have some space to grow in a bit more.

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