new to discus

Discussion in 'Discus' started by philfarm, May 29, 2008.

  1. Andre
    Offline

    Andre Green fingers

    • APSA Member
    37%
    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2006
    Messages:
    2,202
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    Cape Town
    A cheap alternative to blackwater extract is rooibos tea. Just add a few bags to your filter. It works like a charm.
     
  2. Toshi(Walter)
    Offline

    Toshi(Walter) Green fingers

    • APSA Member
    31%
    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2007
    Messages:
    1,114
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    46
    Location:
    Roodepoort, Gauteng
    Angel and tetra's are fine, im worried about space for da discus. but ya... oh and in stead of black water extract one can also use peat moss. work just aswell, and it's cheap!
     
  3. philfarm
    Offline

    philfarm Algae harvester

    • APSA Member
    53%
    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2007
    Messages:
    597
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Location:
    Centurion
    @ Andre, are you sure teabags would work it sounds dogy, how many would you use for a 200l tank?
     
  4. Andre
    Offline

    Andre Green fingers

    • APSA Member
    37%
    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2006
    Messages:
    2,202
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    Cape Town
    I normally add 4 teabags to the filter and replace them as soon as they start getting soggy. Just make sure you use rooibos tea. You dont want your fish on a caffeine trip :)
     
  5. Toshi(Walter)
    Offline

    Toshi(Walter) Green fingers

    • APSA Member
    31%
    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2007
    Messages:
    1,114
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    46
    Location:
    Roodepoort, Gauteng
    ok, so i'm going to get a 4ft planted tank. i am planning on putting 6 dicus in there, my question is, how many other swiming fish can i put in there? I was thinking of 20 tetra's... would that be to much? and ofcourse there will be bottom feeders(6 clown loaches) and pleco's, but people say that they don't matter. what would you guys say. or is it to much, it will only be 6 small discus.
     
  6. Andre
    Offline

    Andre Green fingers

    • APSA Member
    37%
    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2006
    Messages:
    2,202
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    Cape Town
    What are the dimensions of the tank? Specifically how high is it?
     
  7. Toshi(Walter)
    Offline

    Toshi(Walter) Green fingers

    • APSA Member
    31%
    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2007
    Messages:
    1,114
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    46
    Location:
    Roodepoort, Gauteng
    it's a normal 4ft. 1220*450*450mm.
     
  8. Rowland
    Offline

    Rowland Algae harvester

    • APSA Member
    40%
    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2006
    Messages:
    358
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    26
    Location:
    Cape Town
    The tetras could get munched as the discus grow, but would be fine in that sized tank. Be careful of regular plecos as they try feed on the slime of the discus, especially at night. Look for a pleco that is less of an algae eater or does not get big enough to trouble them. Have you thought about cories instead of clown loaches? I find them less disruptive with discus.

    Hope this helps
     
  9. philfarm
    Offline

    philfarm Algae harvester

    • APSA Member
    53%
    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2007
    Messages:
    597
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Location:
    Centurion
    What about the problem of water temperature, discus prefer a higher temp around 29' and cories on the other hand are mostly a cooler water of around 25' where do you settle? oh and @Andre how long does it usually take for the tea bags to go soggy?
     
  10. Toshi(Walter)
    Offline

    Toshi(Walter) Green fingers

    • APSA Member
    31%
    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2007
    Messages:
    1,114
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    46
    Location:
    Roodepoort, Gauteng
    Ok the temp i'm not concerned about, my other tank runs around 27'-28' and the cories are fine, but i was planning on cories and clown's. as for tetra i would like serpae and maybe harlequin's. as for pleco's i'll a golden nugget and maybe a whiptail, also put a butterfly in there aswell as some otto's. they do a nice job of cleaning a tank.
     
  11. Rowland
    Offline

    Rowland Algae harvester

    • APSA Member
    40%
    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2006
    Messages:
    358
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    26
    Location:
    Cape Town
    Tend to keep my discus a little cooler than 29...27.5ish. This gives me some room to increase the temp if problems arise. My sterbai and atropersonatus were very happy at that temp
     
  12. Toshi(Walter)
    Offline

    Toshi(Walter) Green fingers

    • APSA Member
    31%
    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2007
    Messages:
    1,114
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    46
    Location:
    Roodepoort, Gauteng
    how do horse face loaches do with discus?
     
  13. Rowland
    Offline

    Rowland Algae harvester

    • APSA Member
    40%
    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2006
    Messages:
    358
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    26
    Location:
    Cape Town
    Never tried to be honest
     
  14. Solex69
    Offline

    Solex69 Algae harvester

    • APSA Member
    40%
    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2008
    Messages:
    839
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    26
    Location:
    West Beach, Cape Town
    Dont think it should be a problem as horse face loaches are more substrate burrowers, so I don't think they'll bother the discus.
     
  15. Toshi(Walter)
    Offline

    Toshi(Walter) Green fingers

    • APSA Member
    31%
    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2007
    Messages:
    1,114
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    46
    Location:
    Roodepoort, Gauteng
    just checking, i mean they get pretty big, but if they won't be a problem than the clowns wont be aswell. will a golden nugget be ok with them? also, what turnover do they want, i'm getting a 4ft and was thinking of putting a fluval 305 on it. that be ok
     
  16. Andre
    Offline

    Andre Green fingers

    • APSA Member
    37%
    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2006
    Messages:
    2,202
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    Cape Town
    Hi Toshi

    If you dont have a tank already you should maybe concider going for a slightly higher one (50-60cm). If I remember correctly you work at Panorama, so just ask Nico to get you a custom sized tank. The guy that builds them (I think his name is Gert) does a pretty good job. The fluval is a good filter. I think the 305 would be ok.
     
  17. philfarm
    Offline

    philfarm Algae harvester

    • APSA Member
    53%
    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2007
    Messages:
    597
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Location:
    Centurion
    The other day Rowland threatened me to within an inch of my life if I didnt get some more discus so on Monday I picked up another two out of fear and ever since then none of them try hide or even freak out at all when I make sudden movements, its sooo much better! So Toshi if I were you I would save up for the whole school rite from the start, oh and I have a gold nugget and it doesnt seem to bother the discus In the least..

    Andre, back to the tea bags, I went to Spar and found an organic caffeine free all natural rooibos tea and added a bag to my filter, how long on average would you say it should stay in there and how often should I repeat the procedure?
     
  18. Andre
    Offline

    Andre Green fingers

    • APSA Member
    37%
    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2006
    Messages:
    2,202
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    Cape Town
    I normally add 4 teabags to a 120L tank. After a while the bag goes soggy. I am not too sure on how long it takes but I just check them every few days and replace them if neccesarry.
     
  19. Rowland
    Offline

    Rowland Algae harvester

    • APSA Member
    40%
    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2006
    Messages:
    358
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    26
    Location:
    Cape Town
    Happy to hear that philfarm...they really are happier in groups...safety in numbers
     
  20. Theos
    Offline

    Theos Green fingers

    • APSA Member
    9%
    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2007
    Messages:
    499
    Likes Received:
    43
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Location:
    Greenpoint
    Doesnt four bags stain the water a bit much?
     

Share This Page