Legalization of fresh water shrimps

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    Hi guys. I know this is an old thread but I would like to know what the result of this was?

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    They are definitely not permitted and there is no way that they can be, but they are all over.....
     
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    I heard that caradina and neocaradina were under consideration for allowance again but I can't remember where I saw that. As long as we keep them in tanks and away from the native shrimps I see no issue
     
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    So are the shrimp illegal?
    And are dwarf crawfish also illegal?
    If only the South African fish and wild life makes a updated sheet


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    Dwarf crays are DEFINITELY illegal
     
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    Neocaradina and Caradina were what was applied for permission to keep. Both fail on the criteria for having the potential for being invasive.

    All crayfish and all crabs are banned and persons that keep them or sell them can be prosecuted for doing so.

    South Africa does not need to make an updated sheet, at this stage the regulations state that all invertebrates are banned, and this is quite correct, there are no exceptions whatsoever. That regulation remains firmly in place.

    There are already some crayfish that have escaped from a crayfish farm and are expanding their range in the vicinity of Swaziland if my memory serves me correctly. This illustrates the danger of foreign invertebrates to our ecology.

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    Jip crayfish are bad but still a few weeks ago i saw them for sale in our big pet shops. So sad

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    I've only ever seen one
     
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    Only Necardina was applied for.....it is not on the black list, yet
     
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    I saw an entire tank of Mexican Dwarf Crayfish at an LFS a few weeks ago.

    One of my friends once introduced one to his planted tank, and let me just say it was a mistake. A huge mistake. We realized too late... This thing was so destructive I was worried I would wake up with it eating my face off.

    Staring into that tank at the LFS I felt like I was the true face of evil. Those things have two speeds breed and destroy. They are terrifying.

    It's ridiculous that we can't keep Caradina, you just have to look at them wrong and they will die.
     
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    I see campcon have caridina shrimp on their import lists now

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    I agree with you, having said this a verdict on Caridina and one point looked more favourable than neos, but to be practical there was no way this could be monitored or controlled with having one species allowed and the other not, when they look so damn similar. I battle with the differences myself sometimes with my own shrimp so the DAFF inspectorate would definitely not cope. Shops and importers would also abuse this, as is indicated in Quintin's previous post.

    On a positive note most shrimp types are being bred locally so will eventually become available here.
     
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    ok so i have 2 straight forward questions as there are conflicting views on this topic:

    According to the law-
    1. Are they legal to keep, breed and sell locally?
    2. Are they legal to import?
     
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    yes to question one, not legal to import unless you somehow get a permit..
     
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    @shihr

    1. I was told if found locally, you are allowed to keep them.

    2. Still very much illegal to import.

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    This is why amanos are so expensive? Impossible to import and near impossible to breed?
     
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    They are not nearly impossible to breed. They will mate and produce young without much effort on your part. The difficult part is raising the nauplii: https://gabhar.wordpress.com/2009/11/11/breeding-amano/ A lot of work but perhaps worth it in the S. African market where imports are prohibitted. Yields of 50 to 100 shrimplets are possible (probably more if the method was optimized).
     
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    I'm aware of that, it's so much more difficult than normal caradina and neos AFAIK. A good project for whoever actually has any
     
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