Killifish totally under rated in the planted aquarium???

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  1. HC
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    So to take a break from meetings I decided to let my thought pattern drift a bit.


    Totally unexpected it stopped at my new aquarium I will be setting up soon, I thought about which fish to get and my thoughts shouted out to me what about Killifish. Now from what I have witnessed the past two years on this forum and also on the other local forum, Killifish are not as popular as normal ornamental fish such as your guppies, endlers and tetra's. From what I know is that these fish are extremely peaceful and also their life span are not as stretched as normal fish. Is there anyone except Tyrone that are keeping these guys?


    If so please reply to this post with what type you have?


    Tyrone please correct me if I am wrong, but you do still have?


    Also is there any particular reason why we as the planted guru's do not keep these in our tanks?
     
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    I love their colours, and think that they are some of the most beautiful fish there are.. why have I never kept them?

    Ignorance of how to take care of them..

    The belief that they are short lived..

    Do they need a dedicated tank?

    How to breed them?

    It is something I will one day tackle, but they look like a lot of work..

    Those are my reasons..
     
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    I think with a lot of ppl, it comes down to the fact that they don't live as long and if you wanted to keep them long term, you have to breed them and maintain eggs etc.

    Another thing is that you don't really see them in the shops..

    For me it's just self preference. I don't like the wide mouth too much.
     
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    You can keep Lampeye or Normans Lampeye (aplocheilichthys normani) it is a Killifish but not an annual
    They say they live up to three years.
    I keep them in my planted tank and they spawn regular on the Java Moss.
    Started off with six and at the moment have about 50 or more, pretty little fish especially with the blue shine in the top of there eyes, hence the name Lampeye.
    One thing about the fry is that they grow very slow
     
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    I don't have any more fish.

    Other than the annual species, most will live as long as the average neon tetra. The problems are that some are picky feeders (but most will take flake and bits or at worst frozen foods) and many jump (so a good hood/cover glass is essential).

    Their general care is no different to that of the average aquarium fish and breeding is normally straight forward. I have written a book on the subject: http://tgenade.freeshell.org/killibook/index.html

    There are several breeders in South Africa. See http://www.apsa.co.za/board/http://www.apsa.co.za/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2 . Wilfred is currently the most productive breeder.

    bye
     
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    That's sad to hear dude? Why no more fish?
     
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    I agree that they're totally underrated. My favourites are Epiplatys annulatus.
     
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    Aren't they all annual? One year is not bad for a fish.. may try them when in Cape Town.. do a nice biotope or mini scape with some..They got amazing colours..
     
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    Hi Tyrone

    I am currently reading the book you compiled and I must say its well written.. I love the fact that you did various "experiments" and had discussions with various breeders/keepers. Well done man it is great reading material.
     
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    No. Most come from permanent waters and can live for years. It is only the Nothobranchius and what used to all be Cynolebias (now Simpsonichthys, Austrolebias etc...) that are annual (plus a few other genera). Aphyosemions and lampeyes should live for several years. Some Rivulus live for nearly 10 years.

    @Sweetnsour: I'm leaving the country, taking up a professorship in the USA, and have largely shut down my lab where the research killies were.

    @HC: thanks!

    @MarineF: the normani are really nice. I'm glad you are having success with them. Lampeyes are perfect for the planted aquarium.
     
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    ahh i see, all of the best to you man, im glad i got some great fish from you while i still had the chance.
     
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    i love them but they jump

    lost 10 lampeyes this way
     
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    I kept N.Eggersi for a while. Loved them. But then I moved onto threadfin rainbowfish. Wouldnt mind trying Killis again but then I would like a few tanks. They are actually quite easy to breed. I found a lifespan of 6-9 months is the norm. Raising the fry is the problem but with a bit of practice and trial and error it becomes easier.
     
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    good luck tyrone.. hope you dont leave us at APSA..

    long as neons? ive read in a book that neons can live 30 odd years??
     
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    I doubt the average neon lives that long... I think most of use get 3-5 years from a neon tetra. Maybe more from cardinals.
     
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    Eish Tyrone sad to loose you to the Yanks.
    I bet the first thing you will be doing is to set up a tank with fresh water shrimp when you land :thumbsup:
     
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    Tyronnne... Nice that you are going to the US, big tank scene there..

    Wood, get some manzanita ... :)

    You will have a lot of fun.. keep up updated.. :)
     
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    would like killifish but never see them in LFS
     
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    Tyrone bud, before you leave please.. a pic or two of the seemingly dotty white coated prof with net in hand in his lab surrounded by bubbles, 101 tanks and various pieces of sinister looking apparatus. This would be a truly great collectors item for the APSA album.. just like Sean and I saw it... damn can't believe I forgot to take one.. :BangHead:

    We will miss you, but great to have forum rep from the US !
     
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    Thank goodness you never took a photo my fishsty... :embarassed:

    A photo will have to be arranged.
     

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