Journal: My South American Biotope (Brazil stream)

Discussion in 'Aquascaping and Member's Setups' started by Rattail, Sep 23, 2008.

  1. Andre
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    Richard, get a small tank set up with an airstone.

    You should be able to just pluck the leaf from the plant and add it to the new tank. Water from the old tank is perfect, just add a heater so that the water is the same temperature.

    It remains to be seen if the eggs were fertilized, but it might be a good idea to start looking for some brine shrimp eggs.
     
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    I have some VERY VERY fine powder that one feeds to shrimps and baby fish. will this work? it is VERY fine - like baby powder.
     
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    A 30 cm if fine for the first day or two but you want them in a 60 cm tank ASAP else you won't get good fin development. Fill a 60 cm tank to about 10 cm and add the leaf with fry to it with an airstone. Add more water to the tank daily once feeding begins.

    If you can add some plants (java moss is excellent) to the tank the fry will feed off it for a few days. A powder food may work... Micro granulates surely do later on. Baby brine shrimp or microworm would be idea but angels are persistent nibblers and will fill their bellyes as long as the tank isn't sterile. Add some snails to generate infusoria etc... I guess this is best after the fry are free swimming.
     
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    ok. Alert over. Gert popped in to see what's happening (he breeds angels) and said the eggs looked infertile (white but not du eto fungus). Later that evening I saw that the parents had given up and moved away and the eggs were gone. Maybe next time?? Thanks for all the info.
     
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    Ok, I haven't posted for a while. I think that helps to prove that el-natural works (read as - nothing to report because nothing goes wrong if you don't mess with, or add stuff to, the setup ;-)).
    Besides a few fish deaths, everything is well.

    On 25 December, 2010, we had an electricity outage due to our wonderful ESKOM. The power went out at 8:00 and came back at 14:00 (that messed up my Christmas lunch plans).
    After the power had restored, I checked up on the canisters and stuff and noticed that the Cascade in this aquarium had sprung a leak. I cleaned the filter out (it was anyway due for its 6-monthly rinse) but alas, it still leaked. I switched it off and ran the aquarium without any filtration other than afforded by the plants.

    It is now a year and a month (13 months) later and the aquarium has evolved to a fully el-natural setup (except for the lights and heater).

    As you can see from the photos below, the only notable difference is that the echinodorus Bleheri and valisneria have all shrunk. But they still look healthy. I think this is due in part because I have not replaced lights since having setup this aquarium some 3-odd years ago. The fish are also healthy.
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    I have replaced the canister because I prefer a cleaner look and you can all imagine what this tank looks like at feeding time when the corydoras start rummaging for food!!!:)
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    Lessons to take away:
    1. Low-tech works.
    2. No ferts or dosing required. :eek:
    3. Even (so called) high-light plants grow in low light conditions. Maybe not having 750mm long leaves, but they still grow well.
    4. Additives are not required for a healthy aquarium. ;)

    I prefer bigger plants though, so will be replacing the lights so that the plants can grow.

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    cheers
    8)
     
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    BOTTOM LINE................
    this tanks looks exactly what it would look like if you stuck your head in a Brazil Stream
    there is no fancy trimming and cleaning and plant arranging in nature
     
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    yip that must be the most natural tank i have seen yet!
     
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    very nice Rattail :) ur natural technique aproaches are always apreciated :)
     
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    Nice natural! what cory's do you have in there?
     
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    Hey hey the man is back!!! Good to see all is well!
     
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    c.schwartzi and c.similis.
     
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    hahaha!!! never been away. just not posting.... ;-)
     
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    Sad to say, my last 3 Leopoldis have also died (last week). I suspect that it was due t the heatwave we experienced.

    The flagtail catfish, and the rummy noses, both species of which are very susceptible to water condition changes, are all still fine.

    I suspect that it was the heat, which LED to a decrease in oxygen levels, then cause the bigger Leo's to die.

    sad..... but we all know that fish die long before we do.

    :'(
     
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    sorry to hear that man...
     
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    Bright side - at least the show guppies I put in there (guppies are also found in Brazil streams) will be able to breed now.

    always find a bright side ;)
     
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    silver lining :) pls update us with a pic soon! :)
     
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    Amazing tank and setup.

    Most of those plants will do well with the nutrients given by the fish and leftover food, although a bit more would not be wasted. :)

    A very inspirational tank and proof that anyone that follows good principles can have a great looking tank.

    I would like one day to setup a natural tank, but with emersed area. Will dose nutrients nonetheless, as those are found often in nature.
     
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    Hello everyone.
    Sadly, this is the end of the line for this setup. (I am sorry to see that all the photos of the build have disappeared from this thread! I have no idea how to re-add them. If admin can tell me how, then I'd gladly re-submit)

    I got a bad case of BBA in this aquarium, and added a bit of peroxide (it kills BBA) as I have done in the past. Unfortunately, and unbeknownst to me, it was not the right kind of peroxide and I destroyed all my remaining fish, plus the plants. I will now redo this aquarium.

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    Looks very natural.
     

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