Help! Fishy illness - and it's killing!

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    Morning Everyone!

    I need help to identify this illness. Think it's fin-rot?

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    (Sorry, a bit blurry, I know)

    I've lost three fishies so far. One died two nights ago and the other two I found this morning.
    And three more are affected by it. Or at-least, two seem affected by the same kind of thing and another...

    To explain, one small goldfish (he's mostly black) has grey patches on him. He's swimming erratically. But his fins seem ok. He keeps them hugged to his body, but they are whole and working.
    The others (that are sick) have bits missing from their fins/tail. One has completely lost his top fins and half his tail-fin. The other one only has a chunk missing from his tail fin. Seems happy otherwise.

    I found the little guy in the pic above stuck between plants. All his fins are gone and half his body also "rot". BUT! He was still alive.
    I couldn't stand to see him suffer, so culled him. :sad5:


    I noticed the first dead fishy and the other sick one two nights ago. Started chucking meds into the tank yesterday. Not 100% on the names now, but they are from the MicrobeLift range. The one is Artemis, I believe. (For fin-rot)

    The other fish and snails in the tank seem completely unaffected, only the goldfish are suffering. That said, only the goldfish are the only ones "home-bred". The other guys come from LFSes.
    So, prob the goldfish are not immune to whatever is in the tank now.

    Whatever it is, is seems to only be affecting a small number of fish. But it's showing no mercy.
    Any idea what exactly it is?

    T_T
    Hanekka
     
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    Using Herbtana and Artemis (from Microbe-Lift) as meds. Alternating days.
     
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    Hanekka - if the fish is that sick Herntana and Artemis wont work. Defend is a better option when a fish has passed the point of a 'light" infection.
     
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    The one in the pic is the only one that is (or was, rather) VERY sick. The others mostly look ok. If you didn't know what to look for, you almost wouldn't even notice. But I'll go look for a bottle of Defend, as soon as I can. Thanks for the advice!
     
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    I use aquarium salt for pretty much anything odd, bacteria cant stand the change between fresh water to salt water, most fish can!
    just remember to keep changing them from fresh to salty... sorry but I am not sure if salt would help in this case thou
     
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    I also use aquarium salt and also increase my temperature in my hospital tank then add one or two air stones!
     
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    What fish are in the tank and what is the pH and temperature?

    I have seen this type of injury twice: when a plec started scrubbing my fish and when the pH was so low that some fish started getting skin lesions.

    I suggest you move the fish to a separate tank for treatment. I can't speak for what meds are on the market but my first stop is acriflavine. It is nasty, potent stuff, but it works well for most diseases where it is hard to distinguish between fungus, bacteria and protozoans.

    In my experience bacteria diseases (except Columnaris) do not move so fast UNLESS the fish are already weakened in some way or they have wounds which are easy to infect.
     
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    The temperature is kept at 22 C and the pH is at 6.5. Also constant.
    I've checked up on them through the day.
    At least they don't seem to be getting any worse.

    Here's hoping they all get lots better!

    ^_^
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    Columnaris infection.... otherwise known as Saddle back Disease... Go get some Metronidazole, bout only thing that treats it...or Acriflavine...

    Here's a link: http://www.fishvet.com/columnaris.htm
     
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    Thanks. Good article. Does really describe what I see in the tank.
    I'm heading to a LFS first thing tomorrow. Need a better quarantine tank too.
    I have two tanks. The one goldfish in the small tank is not doing too good. But the others are doing better. The grey patches on the one looks a lot better.

    Any tips on an ideal quarantine tank? (should I make a thread for it? )

    ^_^
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    Big as you can afford (balance cost of meds, size of fish, need for high water quality while dosing meds which will kill the filter bacteria etc...).

    You will need a good heater (for tropicals) and a sponge filter which is easier to clean. Lighting is unnecessary.

    Best of luck.
     

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