Freshwater Shrimp in Gauteng?

Discussion in 'Invertebrates' started by bludmonkey, Nov 23, 2008.

  1. Bazil
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    That is unfortunately how it is yes. We have a biodiversity manager at work to whom I spoke to about the possibility of obtaining permits for indigenous species. It is possible to get these, but you need to supply proof that you only intend to keep the species in question, and also ONLY this species in a tank. If you want to keep different species same rule applies. Every species you intend to keep has the same procedure to follow. You do not get awarded a permit like a fishing permit where you will be able to keep any indigenous species as you like.

    There is a way. But it takes long and a lot of letters.

    And another thing he mentioned is if you get off on the wrong start with them your chances are pretty much shot from the start. According to him they are a friendly bunch, but you need to have your story straight. which is understandable seeing that they need to enforce the Act to avoid any possible threats.
     
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    That is a marine recreational licence! Applies only to marine species. Only in Gauteng :violent1:
     
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    So if I understand you Bazil, I can keep yellowfish in a tank (with permits etc) but would need a seperate tank for a barbel or carp.

    What about invasive species like wide mouth bass? When I last applied for a fishing permit (many years ago) I was told to throw them on the river bank and not put them back in the river (sorry but I put them back).
     
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    They way I understood him was you can have a tank with indigenous species. But not mix them with other tropicals on the market. But you will have to apply for each species seperately. It's not a tick box aplication with all the species. Large mouth bass I am not sure about seing they where brought in on certain grounds.

    I will chat to him again tomorrow and see if I can get an aplication form so we can see how the process works. So even if you do get a permit for local shrimps I doubt that you will be allowed to keep them with imported fish etc. I could be wrong but let me get clarity on that from him seeing that he deals with the authorities on a regular basis.
     
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    Whats a marine recreational licence doing in Gauteng? I thought they all went to Mozambique for fishing?
     
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    That's the same license I have to fill out to go diving in any of the Marine Protection Areas (Sodwana etc.).
     
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    @bazil - click on the pic, it is much bigger..

    a fishing permit allows you to collect invertebrates and aquatic plants, but no more than 10kg of plants per day :)

    it doesnt say anywhere you may not keep them in a fish tank, only that they cannot be bought sold or traded..
     
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    what is the cost of the permit then?
     
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    MARINE. Repeat it again. MARINE. Sea water for okes in Gauteng. Not freshwater.
     
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    Bwahahaha who needs a permit anyway!
     
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    do you not need a fishing permit in gauteng?
     
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    I remember many many years ago one use to get freshwater fishing permits. These days it’s not very clear where to get it from. This topic was even discussed numerous times in freshwater angling magazines.
     
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    I used to belong to a club and we had to get permits for Free State and Transvaal then, one simply went to your angling shop of choice and bought them. Our last trip I could not find and was told how it works now is the venue can sell you a license if available, if an official ask for your license and you cannot produce one and one is not available to be purchased at the venue, the official has to be able to supply you with one on the spot. They can no longer just confiscate your tackle unless you are not adhering to the provincial rules, eg no live bait in gauteng fresh water. No feeding spot etc..
     
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    Interesting , I saw some Electric Blue Crayfish for Sale in Boksburg this past weekend.
     
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    There are loads of those around and they are highly invasive and destructive. Please don't buy any. From what I hear, there's someone in sa breeding and selling them.
     
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    I have one word for that crayfish but the mods wont be happy if i say it

    They destroy everything , they kill sleeping fish , and for some reason they clip off stem plants
    They dig big holes under everything and if they somehow get free theyll become a massive problem for our freshwaters


    Before i knew they were illegal i had some , got them from a restaurant ,

    I had to kill them off ..... sorry but its terrible those things ,
     
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    Seeing as there was so much discussion on this thread, is there any clarity if the shrimp will drop off soon from the BL? Every petshop in my area sells them now, I know they are ignorant but surely in the past 2-3 years judging on the age of this thread there should have been some progress made? :scratch:
     
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    nope nothing..
     
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    Well that sucks :p


    By the way I was on the gov website now, not very user friendly but maybe I am ignorant but if you search blacklist on there nothing pops up... and if I try to load the DEA webpage it just keeps on loading and loading and nothing happens... I suppose it is on lunch :evil6:
     
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    found some fresh water shrimp in a cave near gauteng, water was crystal clear... they were about 1cm big
     

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