Discussion in 'Discus' started by Luis Embalo, Oct 10, 2013.
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Stunning looking Discus. Now are these considered as Wild?
Not to worry... read their page!
These guys are in South America.. cannot get wilder than that.. They have videos and photos of them picking up the fish.
AH, thanks for that post Luis.
That's Hudson Crizanto of HEKDiscus
A supplier of mostly high end, collector item Discus, operating from Brazil.
I just finished reading The Pride of the Purus River: An Iridescent Income from Ornamental Fish
I' haven't hyperlinked on APSA, before, if a mod can condense this, I would appreciate it
It's such a pity , even if we in SA WANTED TO BUY his fish, it would be hindered by 2 major factors:
~ End user or Hobby Price would be >>$100 per fish, IF it were possible to directly access these fish. See next factor.
~ South Africa and Brazil have not traded in aquarium fish for more than 2 years now.
With both countries refusing to budge in terms of their required health certificates, and documentation for import and export
This is a political issue, which I , and others in the trade have fully explored, with no immediate resolution imminent
This is frustrating from both a business and hobby viewpoint.
It is just another page in a heartache story of even MORE cool species, becoming increasingly unattainable.
Now to be realistic, these Discus and other Brazilian fish have to be bought from next level down in the trade
...So we pay even more for the Brazilian specimens from one of his or any other Brazilian exporters' clients.
Some are exported ( or even smuggled) TO, then FROM neighbouring Colombia and Peru.
Others are shipped to USA, EU and Asia ...
After those stages which attract costs, and mark ups the "fortunate" South African market ends up footing a hefty bill.
Those avenues offer the best hope of getting any, or even some decent wild fish for that matter.
The current and future economic, social, environmental value of Discus from the wilds, has been more fully appreciated.
Thus, in the chain of custody, even more care is exercised and extremely favourable survival rates are a reality.
Hope, I didn't bore you
No, you did not bore me at all.. very interesting information.
Again, I am not one to go buy wild fish, and after seeing the ones that are tank bred, it seems just like a waste of life and money to import wild fish.
However, there are true professionals on this that can pay a lot of money to obtain quality fish, and then breed them.
To pay R2000 for a beautiful fish would not put me off, if I had the skills and conditions to maintain such animal..
The prices quoted that he sells are very good..
"Hudson shows the fishermen photos of his aquaria with its pumps, filters and specialist treatments and a video of the first catch of discus after their quarantine: lustrous gold and green and ready for sale to Japan, Singapore, and countries across Europe and North America. He sells the fish for an average of $75 to wholesalers, though the final price for the most spectacular discus can approach $1,000. The levels of investment that their fish merit make a strong impression on all the fishermen."
So R800 to start, then shipping, etc, it is easy to see each fish getting to be over R1000 .. but spend R10k, and maybe start with a small breeding colony, and the money is recuperated ..
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