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    Hi All,

    Trying to build up my first CO2 system and not sure on which brand of equipment I should get. I know I need a 2 stage regulator and solenoid but so many brands out there, not sure which is best value for money.

    I have managed to locate, SAGA, Aqua-Labs and Tunze 2 stage regulators. Which would be the most reliable?

    I've also managed to find a SAGA solenoid, are these good? seems quite expensive in comparison to the regulators.

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    From the research i have done and everyone i spoke to the best is saga and they dont give any problems.

    But the person to ask is @jakkalsbothma ... He'll give good advice.

    The other thing you need to look for is the Saga super diffuser (saga Bazooka). BEST difuser evver! Thank you @jakkalsbothma for that piece of crucial advice...
     
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    Thanks for that bit info!

    Where did you souce your equipment?

    Murphys law, the guy who had the saga equipment seems to have gone awol!
     
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    Just ask at your LFS.
     
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    Thanks man

    So I've been offered a SAGA CO2-9A single stage reg - any thoughts on this reg?
     
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    The SAGA CO2-9A is a fairly decent hobby grade reg. Single stage and non pressure adjustable though, whereas the AquaLabs Premium and TUNZE reg's are pressure adjustable. The AquaLabs reg also has better internal design with diaphragm stabilization mechanism. The only weakness is the needle valve hose connector, push lock type. These can be quite fragile and easily broken if not used correctly, but can be easily upgraded. All are single stage regulators, BTW.

    EDIT: - Note that the SAGA SG-A202 model is their budget version and has the solenoid armature fixed to the reg body, unlike the more expensive, but better model CO2-9A, which has the solenoid and needle valve post body and easy to replace or upgrade.
     
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    If however you can get the SAGA reg for under R1500 and content with the limitations of a preset reg. Then go for it. ;)
     
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    bascially deciding on the SAGA due to cost... Getting the SAGA reg and solenoid, diffuser, bubble counter, check valve and 5KG bottle with wheel valve for R2500... seems to be the cheapest I can find in Durban

    Novamarine wants R1500 just for the bottle and wheel valve o_O

    So the end game is to upgrade to duel stage reg in a few months time if all goes well. Do you think the TUNZE would be a good route to go?
     
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    That's not a bad price for a complete kit with 5Kg cylinder. Better than those ISTA kit that cost around the same price. Think you'll be more than happy with it.
     
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    Thanks!

    So I picked up the kit today and everything looks good except for the bottle. The bottle is stamped 2kg and the seller says that all 5kg bottles are actually net 2kg C02 and the 5kg is the gross weight. This doesnt sound right to me :-/... is this true?
     
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    Not entirely, no... :scratch:

    When we refer to a CO2 fire extinguisher as (for example) a 2kg cylinder, we refer to the actual content or CO2 charge and not the total mass of the cylinder, which in the case of a 2kg cylinder with wheel valve fitted is 8.25kg full and 6.25kg empty. A 5kg cylinder is around 12.5kg empty and 17.5kg full mass. When you buy a cylinder, you buy it as its rated CO2 charge, for example a 2kg or 5kg. When you refill you pay for the CO2 per kg, not per cylinder mass.
     
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    I figured as much! Thanks for the help!

    Will have to chat to the seller about this
     
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    Hi there! Are you still happy with this kit? I'm in the market for a CO2 kit and don't know what to get....
     
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    Only been using it for the last 2 months or so, and so far it's seem fine. The needle valve can be sensitive but you learn how to dial it in after a few tries

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    Will you be so kind as to send me some pics of the CO2 setup you bought?
     
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    Here you go;

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    Awesome thanks!!
     
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    So If you wasn't limited to those brands what would you say is the best R.C.?
     
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    OxyTurbo Reg & Needle valve + Bavaria Fluidtec solenoid. It's pretty much modular, allowing for easy upgrade or swap out of components, unlike most hobby reg's that are fixed body. The Bavaria Fluidtec solenoid also doesn't suffer from the common issues associated with the average hobby grade solenoids, as it completely makes away with the traditional armature & manifold design. This kit can be had for around R2500, which is what the non adjustable SAGA currently retails for locally.

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    Jeez, Thats in another league. Do you have one of these? Where did you get it from?
     

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