Discussion in 'Calendar Events' started by Andre, Oct 6, 2008.
cough..cough...any report back on how it went
yes please. I'd also like to know - seeing that I couldn't make it.
yeah, feedback, how was it?
Thanks to everyone for a great meeting last night!
It was wonderful to put a face to all the names.
Prof. WOW! that is all I can say ! Really learnt a lot. I now have a better understanding of the Amazon and its fishes. Will really help me in my discus keeping.
Andre, Great talk, you can see the passion in your eyes when you talk about fish. To accept a job in the Cameroon just so that you can see the fish in their natural habitat..............
Thanks to everyone again and looking forward to the next meeting.
Ditto What James said. It was great. Prof Dirk's talk was brilliant. Andre's passion and knowledge of fish and plants is phenomenal. Good 2 have 2 great speakers with a wealth of info to improve our own tropical set ups. Great to finally meet some to the guys we chat to on the forum. Another evening like this is needed. Maybe we should start up a " APSA Cape Branch", where we organises regular meetings and outings or even importing.
I really enjoyed meeting all of you guys. It was pretty awesome seeing the table covered with plant cuttings. Hopefully next time we can swop some fish as well
Dirk, the lecture on the Amazon was fantastic. Thank you for taking the time and organizing the venue.
Looking forward to the next one!
Stop teasing!! It's all very nice to say how great it was... but how's about someone writing a summary and posting it here for those who could not attend??
(Especially as to how I am setting up an Amazon tank myself )
I would also like to thank all you guys for the get together last night, and especial Dirk for the awesome lecture and organizing the venue. It was nice to put faces to the mysterious avatars It was great to see the adventures Andre gets up to in the Cameroon. The idea of having a lecture or presentation really added value to the meeting and I think we should try to do the same for future events. Everyone on the forum has something to contribute based on their personal experience. The DIY guys out there could possibly do talks on construction of customs built tanks, filter systems or lighting for example. So I propose that if any of you got some ideas for a presentation to start getting something together for the next meet-up. Next time I'll follow Dirk's lead and bag and TAG the plants I bring, he really had a impressive display going and it made trading much easier.
Thanks Dirk and Andre for a really inspirational evening. To say that it was informative would be an understatement. So glad we've managed this...no excuses for further meetings!
I didn't make notes, so guys please add/amend where I missed something, but some points that stood out for me:
1. Very low water pH (3.5 to 5) is not a issue for Discus and other south american fish like cardinals, so don't panic if it gets low, although not a lot of plants will grow in this environment - keeping your pH stable is critical though. Water conditions are different in south america, Dirk explained how areas can be divided into 'white', 'black' and 'clear' water, 'black' water contains more organic material and I guess humic substances, 'clear' water contains almost nothing - streams coming down from mountains and plato areas and 'white' water I'm not sure off, can't remember the exact composition. There was some good photos showing where these bodies of water meet.
2. The water temperature actually drops during summer as the ice melts on the Andes and cooler water flows down. Winter water temperatures can get up to 36 degrees, Summer around 26-28 degrees. Spawning happens during summer as the water levels raise and there are more food and shelter available. By shelter i mean that the water levels actually goes over terrestrial areas with trees and other plant life, which creates the ideal environment for critters like shrimp.
3. Having good nutrition for your fish that contains lots a protein and fats is also important, shrimp form a big part of their diet in their natural habitat.
4. Life is tough for the fish during winter, as some get stuck in ponds due to the water level dropping. Water stagnates and get dirty and more sensitive fish become prey to the hardier predators like piranha's. Dirk also explained how plec's are protected by their armor from predatory fish during these periods.
There was much more but I'll let the other guys add more info
Thanks Riaan. Interesting about the shrimps... What kind?
Riaan. good to hear from you man. You are a very good listener. I am still digesting all the info.
Awesome meeting/lecture/get-together guys, it was really nice putting some faces to the names... although I can really only remember one or two It was not the beers I promise I think it has to do with me being overwhelmed by the amazing talk Prof Dirk gave, the very interesting talk Andre gave on Cameroon and just a everyone's friendly'ness (if it can be considered a word)
Ooh and by the way 'Silikube', is pronounced 'Silly-cube'... had it all wrong
Friendliness. Perfectly good English word. You just spellt it wrong.
Spelt or spelled, Perfectly good English word (s). You just spelt it wrong.
The intricacies of the English language.....
Damn you Microsoft Word spell checker
Thanks for the correction Richard
... and who said we only learn about fish and plants at APSA?
In spite of organizing the venue and giving the lecture, I would also like to add that I really enjoyed it. Putting the faces to all the names we see on the forum was great and if someone from the outside would have looked at us exchanging the plants, they might have got the idea that we were a group of pre-primary school kids comparing our dinky toys. Well, I really enjoyed that and I have managed to exchange some very interesting plants.
Thanks guys, great fun, and we must do it again some time. I think Riaan's suggestion of a DIY meeting is excellent, or we could also have a general round the table discussion with everyone presenting something about their favourite aquatic plant or something.....
I second that!
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