Freebie Cabomba Free in Cape Town

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  1. Fred van Vuuren
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    Hi Ladies and gents

    I yanked out all the Cabomba in my display and shoved it in my sump . there's quite a bit but it has to go as soon as possible

    Oh and its free .... to a good home

    whats app or call me 0613250597
     
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    Perhaps contact DAFF, they would be keen to take it off your hands for a small sum, well from you that is :)
     
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    What Trevor means is that this plant is BL and as such you should dump it... :)
     
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    On the lawn...not close to a drain ;)
     
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    or the compost heap, better to compose and recycle... Let the worms have at it.
     
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    Where you can collect it surreptitiously at night?
     
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    :thumb:...but only if it hasn't dried out...
     
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    DAFF will also come and collect you maybe at night, if you have also not dried out.....
     
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    @Dirk B - completely off topic but did you get my pm regarding CO2 injection
     
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    Yes, I did, just been very hectic of late....

    Regards, Dirk
     
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    Dirk, with you being called in to ID things with the guy arrested last month for selling elodea and cabomba, what actually was the outcome, was he just fined and released on the same day ?
     
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    Elodea, Cabomba and more are found in shops in Cape Town.
    They never get in troubles...
    Anyone has a link to the latest updated blacklisted species?
    Or maybe the non blacklisted one (should be quicker to read)?
     
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    You just blew is cover...
    :flame:
     
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    Sorry for the spelling, I meant 'his cover'. H key malfunction or maybe my bad...
     
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    Hi Trevor,

    Well, we had the guy that we caught for Cabomba and Elodea sentenced to five years imprisonment and he was then placed in Pollsmoor prison. No sooner was he there than he worked out how to grow the stuff in the toilets and then dried them, and the whole prison staff starting smoking the stuff. Well we had to move him to the Victor Verster prison where we now have him in the isolation cells. We made sure that he could take no plants with him. He is now also hoping for a long road to freedom one day, at the moment, we have thrown away the keys......

    Olivier, you twit, if you would do your homework on this forum, you would know that there is no longer a blacklist, but a list of plants permitted for import, whilst other plants may be traded but not imported. It's always these cocky guys asking these embarrassing questions....

    Kind regards,

    Dirk
     
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    Poor guy, would visit him if he was still in Pollsmoor and combine it when I next visit my mum..
     
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    The guys and girls behind http://www.invasives.org.za/plants/aquatic-plants .. they seem legit or rather, well informed. If the list and information that they publish is accurate and 100% correct, it has become much easier to quickly check if people are not sure what the status of a plant is.

    I was surprised to see that Lemnoideae is not on the list, as an example. It is the bane of my aquatic life, but I can see it being very useful in treating water or creating organic fertiliser, compost etc.

    Later Ferdie
     
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    Hi Ferdie,

    There is the invasive list of plants that are on this list right. They show us which plants are here and are already a problem. We obviously don't want to add to that list.

    Indigenous plants cannot be listed as invasives and Lemnoideae or duckweed is certainly indigenous, it is just about cosmopolitan, but it is not invasive in SA. So you will never see that plant on the invasives list.

    So the idea with the permitted and not permitted list is to stop further plants from coming in and becoming invasive. Cabomba, for example, is a plant that internationally has a bad reputation for becoming invasive and for that reason it is not on the permitted list, so also quite a number of other plants. The invasives list will not give you this information, so it is pretty useless regarding what aquarists should grow and not strive to grow in their aquaria.

    However, what importers now manage to do is to get around the permitted list when they import plants by either bribing customs officials or the customs officials are not capable of identifying the 300 odd species of permitted aquatic plants or the 200 odd that are not permitted. I would like to take a bet that even the most advanced aquarists on this forum would battle to identify the 300 odd species of permitted aquatic plants and the 200 odd ones that are not permitted. Furthermore, there is also an increase in maliciously trying to mislead customs officials by importers of asking their suppliers to incorrectly label plants so that when they arrive, on paper it sounds legitimate, but really it is not and it is again a form of corruption! Where this is all headed is that importation of aquatic plants will be banned entirely because of the threat of importing something that has the potential of becoming invasive. If you really look at it rationally, why should South Africa bother about allowing imports of items that hold a high risk for the country's biodiversity and why is it justified to employ customs staff to check on imported aquatic plants, whilst we have far greater needs for other things in the country. Eventually the present irresponsible importers that want to make fast bucks are going to mess it up for the hobbyist and the hobbyist will not be able to receive imported plants. It might sound as though this will never happen, but mark my words...... There is a new aquaculture bill on the way (very slowly....) which is planning major changes....

    Kind regards,

    Dirk
     
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    That does add context to invasives.org, thanks Dirk.

    "to make fast buck" seems to be our countries biggest illness, stuck in profit now escape tomorrow mentality. I take my hat off to guys that are really trying hard to establish a local business with local content creating local jobs ... not US style where the job is being taken by a robot ;-)

    Truthfully I must agree, better to stop the trickle by closing the tap than allowing the trickle to consume resources that should be better used elsewhere.

    Have as safe day .. later Ferdie
     
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    How about brasilian pennywort . am I allowed to give some of that away ...

    ANYBODY WANT SOME ... IF I MAY ...
     

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