Blacklisted fish and Plants

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    I've seen some heavy debate over blacklisted fish and plants in the last while.

    It's marvelous that we are all aware of this list and try to stick to it; however every now and then you might come home with a fish or plant that is blacklisted without being aware of it.
    So you get told the plant or fish is blacklisted cool, but what next?
    Do you take it out the tank and kill it or do you keep it and run a risk of being caught with a blacklisted plant or fish? (If you are caught what can happen to you?)
    Normally the answer is get a permit.
    Well thats cool but where do you get it? Who do you contact?

    So anybody with ideas or contacts help would be appreciated.
     
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    I would attach the black list but i dont know how :hippy:

    Thw following person at CapeNature issues the permits:

    Deon L. Hignett
    Manager: Fauna, Flora, CITES & Hunting
    CapeNature, Private Bag X29
    Rondebosch, South Africa 7701

    e-mail: dhignett@capenature.co.za
    Tel: +27 (0)21 - 659 3418
    Fax: +27 (0)21 - 659 3415
    URL: http://www.capenature.co.za

    Regarding what can happen to you - it depends. They will normally take the animals away and fine you, but they might then decide to lay a criminal charge.
     
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    Cool info THX!I think "THEY" are more focused on cathing people dealing in the black market with big amounts of blacklisted Fauna and Flora rather than one guy having a blacklisted Plant or fish in his personal tank.

    Still with that in mind keep it legal and you should not have a problem!!
     
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    Not what they told me. they are now focussing on EVERYONE. the guys with snakes and so on on permit gets a little helllllo from CN once a year now with out warning. I have emailed the black list to Cam to add to the thread.
     
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    Ta Thanks Henk.

    Now we all know.
     
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    I have also heard of people with permits getting surprise visits every now and again.

    Apparently one lady unknowingly had a blacklisted animal which she got from a friend, and because of that all of her animals were removed and her permits revoked.

    I personally think that the enforcement should be done at the petshops and importers. Most people dont even know that there is something like a blacklist, and with most shops selling Egeria densa, even water Hyacinth and blacklisted fish, it can become a problem really quickly.

    So what do you do if you realize something is blacklisted after buying it? Take it back to the petshop where it might be bought again by someone who will not be responsible for the animal and might release it into the wild? Do you kill it?

    It's a difficult question, and one that, in my opinion, we should not really be asking ourselves
     
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    I think this country would be better served if the legal agencies rather went after real criminals. NOt aquarists who lovingly look after and care for their fauna and flora - usually at great expense.


    As for killing something just because someone in government deems it to be BAD..... I think that in itself is wrong. As my autosignature says: "The Lord God made them all".
     
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    Thanks for the info, now we can contact them and find out what is all steps to take and if we not sure they can at least advice us on what is black listed and what is safe.
     
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    Just note Deon is with CapeNature, so there might be another person in Gauteng to contact.
     
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    Richard / Andre look I have no intention of killing a fish just because it's blacklisted. The statement was a generalisation.
     
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    Well the thread is actually about what to do when you have a blacklisted fish.

    But I should have known the thread would be jacked. It seems to be the rule rather than the exception on forums these days.
     
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    The off topic posts have been removed, lets keep it on topic. :)
     

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