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Discussion in 'General photography questions' started by Chongkie, Oct 7, 2014.

  1. AdrianT
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    Learn to use the camera first, then Photoshop later if that's your wish. Like building a house, you need a strong foundation. The process seems logical to me, I guess not to everyone. Unfollowing this thread.
     
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    Hi Ferdi,

    That sounds very interesting. Can you not use a standard grey card [1] for calibration? I assume that you don't need to do more than have a stable reference point. I don't think you don't need an absolute measure but rather just a relative one, i.e. just monitor how it changes for you. BTW You should start a thread on the DIY forum about this. I'd be interested to follow your progress.

    BTW I considered doing something similar to measure CO2 by watching the colour of a drop checker. Although I was not thinking about using a camera but rather a RGB LED with a phototransistor. One day when there is more time... :)

    [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gray_card


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    It's sad that this thread has gone sour so quickly.

    Does anyone use their flash above the tank when taking photos or do the fish not like this?
     
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    @Linxie nothing went sour, people have different opinions, its called a debate....
     
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    :tongue3: :DNo no...you all have it wrong. You point your phone at the tank and push the button
     
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    Perhaps I'm overly sensitive :)
     
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    Wow, debate went boom! :oops:

    Thread was to help out the noobs of photography, especially for indoor FTS. But again, turned out to be a contest of who knows more of what... I'm sorry but @Singu , there was no debate about how technical photography can be... AdrianT was trying to explain to us in simple terms on how to take awesome photos.

    I can use my DSLR when there is lots of light, but I struggle with low light and especially with FTS. That is why I asked the question. But anyways, there is some good info here.. ;)
     
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    @Chongkie ok, some easy terms for you :)confused2:)
    Low light indoor--> if you want to freeze action (to put it simply so everybody understands, it means you want all the fast moving stuff in the tank, put simply the fish, to be in focus and not motion blurred) you push the iso, set shutter on atleast 250/1 and open your lens hole (put simply) as wide as possible if you are some distance away, if you are a bit closer, make the lens hole smaller so that more of the photo is in focus. Then, and here is where it gets all technical and for the pro`s (!!) you use photoshop to remove some of the noise, if it is very noticeable.
    Get it ? Good.
     
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    i guess sarcasm can sometimes comes across badly and offend people on forums.
     
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    @Chongkie,

    i used to struggle as well. try the light box. cut up some cardboard and frame it around the tank with masking tape cutting out the light from your tubes. the light from the tubes is usually what throws your camera off making dark areas really dark.
     
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    It does, when you cannot hear ones tone of voice :)
     
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    also another thing, dont be scared to add more light. i dont have a detachable flash so cant do the flash ontop of the tank thingy but this is what i did..
    20131101_020133.jpg
    and this is the type of result to expect :)
    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    http://www.apsa.co.za/xenforo/threads/14l-nature-scape.5864/page-5

    same tank BTW.. i used the same technique to take my pic..also used cardboard to block out excess light
     
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    @dart ... thanks gray card is perfect .. will even look at using it for normal tank pics.

    DIY thread it is .. will post some a bit later.
     
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    Can't comment on whether fish mind it or not, but I definitely do use my flash above tank wherever possible.
     
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    I'll say it again, call me old fashioned, learn to use the camera first, post processing programs later. You build a house with a strong foundation, you have a good house. Take short cuts to get to the top and you'll always be wobbly. That's my view. We are all different :)

    Below 100% unedited, not resized, totally original. Anyway can click on it to view it full size and save it, to check the EXIF info if it makes you happy. ISO 640 @ 90mm blah blah:

    [​IMG]
     
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