anyone ever used either of these in your subs before?

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    This was with the same method my low tech 3ft tank. Peat, vermiculite and pottingsoil.
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    Coco peat is "Palm Fiber Peat" or PFP. Same thing, I believe.
     
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    excellent thank, the coco peat i was wanting to use,is not the stuff you get in bricks but the white fibers (often 3-5cm's long) non of the brown stuff.
    i am more worried about using ADA soil then i am the coco fibers, i am sure when the ADA breaks down the fibers will help keep it somewhat stable.
    thank for the help, was really looking for someone who had used such things before
     
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    wow that really is something , what potting soil did you use, did you use the mineralized soil method by any chance?
     
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    Itcwas just normal pottingsoil from a nursery, vermiculite and peat I got from the LFS.
     
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    I've been importing and using Aquasoil for about 3 years now. It's never broken down and turned to mud yet.
     
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    gees, you have no idea how much i fear it will self-destruct in my tank.
    i bought some chinese rip off of ADA, didnt know when i got it.
    after 3 weeks i put my hand in to take out a plant and the entire tank was mud, couldnt see 1cm into it.
    took me ages to get that shit out, had a couple fish die from it.
     
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    Well fear not. ADA Aquasoil is not a cheap chinese rip off. It's the original. It has been the best planted aquarium substrate for 20 years, for good reason.

    While yes, you'll get some dust from it, it shouldn't turn to mud, unless it's disturbed every day for hours on end. Trust me.
     
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    i have heard stories about it turning to mud, but was told that was old stuff
     
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    To be quite honest, I have heard it turns to mud if you get MTS, but other than that, nothing. I have even thrown some into my garden and it's still in it's pellet form.
     
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    thx for the stress relief
     
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    I have an MTS infestation and no problem so far and this is from Sean's first batch going 3 years.
     
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    Well seeing as you are putting just about everything in the tank, I saw a guy using Cat Litter for the bottom layer, so seeing as you are on a budget, might be worth a shot. (I would definitely read up on it first though)
     
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    not really on a budget, got eco-complete and ADA amazonia both 9L bags, but thanks dont think it will work for me.

    that would be "Laterite" scroll down to see it
    http://www.aquariumslife.com/aquascaping/planted-aquarium-substrate/substrate-materials-planted-aquarium/

    weird story about kitty litter...
    the usa has radioactive detectors at their borders and ports and they kept stopping the same trucks coming into their country with kitty litter in.
    their radioactive detectors cant tell the different types of it i.e nuclear waste etc...
    the kitty litter which was been detected was something called new earth.
    so their kitty litter was radioactive, lol
     
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    Ok, so it will only make your fish more interesting :sign17:
     
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    i really dont know why you are doubting these 2 products....if you not on a budget get more of these and save the potential heart ache of rescaping if things go wrong.. DIY is fun but there are lots of things you gotta consider.. there are also many unknowns.. at least commercial products are consistent and tested.
     
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    I am a DIY person by nature, and always research anything before using.
    son of a scientist
     
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    is that peat or PFP?


    like sphagnum moss?
     
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    dont know what PFP is sorry
     
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    PFP is palm fibre peat.. which is the same as coco peat.. hover over PFP and you will see a description for this abbreviation
     

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