340l "Fern forest" (now converting to Crypt forest)

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    Hello fellow aquatic plant fanatics!

    I have been busy building a cabinet and canopy for my new tank. I unfortunately did not take pics of the build.

    On to the important stuff!
    -The tank specs are: 105cm x 55cm x 55cm (340l)
    -The lightning is as follows: 3 x growlux tubes and 3 x luxline plus 865 tubes (two of each are t8 and one of each t5). It all comes down to about 200w of light. I still need to install reflectors but thats more expensive than the bloody lights!
    -Filter is a 1100lph external canister and another 700lph power head for some extra movement.
    -200w heater
    -the substrate is just tetra complete (4 buckets) caped with hagen geo system gravel. (i know some of you are going to tell me that the tetra substrate is just like mineralized top soil but then so be it. I have seen some pretty nice setups with just this as a substrate and no water colum dosing)
    -pressurized CO2 with glass defuser
    -prof dirk se druppels as ferts.

    The water is still very murky but that will clear up soon then I will take some proper photo's!
    Most of these plants have been growing very well in my 2ft tank so except fro the lilaeopsis.
    I have no idea what fish i will decide on so i will post all that stuff when i made up my mind!

    FTS:
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    The whole left back corner of the tank will be covered in the Indian fern planted behind the java fern.

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    RIGHT:
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    And just a pic of the tank and cabinet:
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    Comments welcome!

    Schalk
     
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    Re: 340l "Fern forest"

    Looking good Schalk

    The only thing I would do is break up those ground plant in the front in to smaller pieces ( I think it Brazilian Micro Sword) When they are broken in to smaller pieces they tend to grow faster and make better carpet.

    Correct me if I'm wrong please :D
     
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    Re: 340l "Fern forest"

    Yes it is Brazilian micro sword A.K.A. lilaeopsis. That is 4 pots spread out over that front. I'm afraid of damaging the plants and roots if i break up to much as its really tangled up! I'm just gona have to wait a bit longer for it to carpet nicely!
     
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    Re: 340l "Fern forest"

    Don't worry about damaging the micro sword.Pull the lot,trim off all the leaves to about 2 cm,trim the roots,separate in smaller groups then plant.
    That is the emersed form and the leaves will melt anyway.By trimming the leaves and roots,you'll encourage new root growth and avoid possible algae on the melting/rotting emersed leaves.
     
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    Re: 340l "Fern forest"

    +1 one what everyone else said about the micro sword..

    that narrow leaf java fern is awesome! i don't think the other ferns are adding much to the overall tank, i personally don't like multiple java fern types in one tank... but it's your tank so as long as you like it, that's all that counts!

    you can do some pretty amazing stuff with only 2 or 3 plant species in one tank, check these out:

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    nice keep up the good work!
     
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    Re: 340l "Fern forest"

    I'm a very big fan of the first pic you posted. Believe it's by George Farmer. I believe that it will look pretty nice once all the plants start filling in and I can start shaping... I'm still deciding on the left corner with the C. Balansae. maybe I will remove that later on and get a nice bushy stem in there, what do you guys think? Need so reds in there somewhere as well!
     
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    Re: 340l "Fern forest"

    Hi,

    you have stunning ferns. It's a beautiful tank.

    How about adding floating ferns? The tank seems a bit bright... If you get them, ANubias nana would make a nice contrast to the ferns, better so than a lawn.

    Keep the pictures coming.

    Greeting from Nairobi

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    Re: 340l "Fern forest"

    Thanks for the kind words and advise... Its very difficult planting the lilaeopsis in such a deep tank. Will see if I can make a plan... I all ready broke of most of the roots to about 2cm long when I took the pots apart so no need for trimming that side, as for the leaves I will trim that down.

    Does the emerged form look a lot different from the submerged from?

    And I'm going to will the bottom of the needle leaf java fern bush with some anubias.
     
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    Re: 340l "Fern forest"

    @WBS: I've been staring at that pic you posted of george farmers tank and wondering, "how the hell do they get the java fern to grow suck perfect round bushes? Mine always looks messy... Can you literally cut the java fern leaf in half? What wil happen then?

    Regards

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    Re: 340l "Fern forest"

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    Just one very quick snap of the tank... Just trying to up lode from my phone.

    Will post a fauna and flora list as soon as everything is final...
     
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    Re: 340l "Fern forest"

    Very nice dood!

    Give me a shout if you want to try a carpet..
     
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    Re: 340l "Fern forest"

    The micro sword started to carpet nicely, but I'm not happy with the look... I don't know if I want a carpet? Maybe some tenellus around the needle leaf bush on the left bu want to fill the right front in with something like C. Becketti? Excuse the spelling please...

    What do you think WBS ? I just wish I could take some proper pics! My photos really does not do justice...

    Thanks for the kind words WBS!
     
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    Re: 340l "Fern forest"

    As you can see I took the canopy off and fitted a self made light "fixture" on the top because I like the idea of an open top tank better. My question now is this: I currently only have 2 x 39W t5's over this tank, a growlux and a luxline 865 and even my rotala is growing very fast with nice and pink leaves right at the bottom of the tank. I can get 'n nice fixture for the tank that takes 3 x 39W t5's but my plants are growing great with just two tubes? Should I really buy the fixture for an extra tube?

    What do you guys think?
     
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    Re: 340l "Fern forest"

    wow dude

    you only have those two globes in that tank, and your plants are doing that well,

    congratz!!!
     
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    Re: 340l "Fern forest"

    Really beautiful!
     
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    Re: 340l "Fern forest"

    Just wanted to share my new toys with you guys. Got them from u-barn on ebay for only R180 shipping included! Think its a bargain.

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    I'm going to try a tenellus carpet, did not like the lileaopsis very much...

    What do you guys think about a carpet in this setup?
     
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    Re: 340l "Fern forest"

    nice tank :eek: what substrate are you using
    i love tenellus mine is doing ok just seem to send the runners far apart. nice toys as swell, mine is also in the post
     
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    Re: 340l "Fern forest"

    Thanks wolf. The substrate is tetra complete substrate caped with 4 bags of hagen geo system fine black gravel. A bit expensive but totally worth every cent... I honestly cannot believe how well the rotala is growing wiyh just the two t5's...
     
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    Re: 340l "Fern forest"

    Wow this has been a pretty long time since I updated this thread!

    So much have changed, everything had to be taken apart because of problems I had in the tank thanks to the driftwood I used. I then decided to fill it up with mostly crypts and then still obviously the ferns!

    Anyhow, It takes some time gathering crypts and they take for ever to grow so this has almost been like a grow out, just trying to build up some plant mass to get a better idea of what what I'm working with. Really just stuck everything in there so there is no real scaping done hare so please bare with me, this will change very soon!

    I ran out of ferts for a couple of months but still continued the CO2, the plants did not lie that at all but I since decided to give the full seachem range a go and wow! I know its expensive and in practical on a tank this size so I will go over to EI in a while but will with out a doubt only use this stuff in smaller tanks!

    This is the latest photo of the tank and is probably about a month old.
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    I will only post pics again after the rescape is done... For now I'm really looking for java moss!!!! Loads of the stuff!!!! If you guys can help out it would be very much appreciated!

    latest tank specs:

    105 x 55 x 55cm rimless from 10mm glass
    Eheim 2217
    Pressurized CO2 defused with Rhinox 5000 diffuser at about 2bps i have a bright green almost yellow drop checker
    6 x 30w T8's mixture of daylights and grow lux
     
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    Re: 340l "Fern forest"

    Hey Schalk,
    Ferns are looking great! ;)
    Specialy the Bolbitis.
     

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