A new 500mm cube setup

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  1. Muhammed Naqeeb Kagee
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    Hey guys. I am setting up a new 500mm cube and I'm looking for some advice. Looking for reasonable substrate that is good for plants, nothing hectic, not looking to go CO2. Any advice on what I can use for substrate?
     
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    What Plants are you going to keep in the tank?
     
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    PFS, small gravel, there's lots of cheaper ADA-like substrates on the market now.

    I would go with low-tech plants that don't require CO2 - what I had in my cube more than a year ago and in my other two low-tech tanks, providing that you have good lighting and you can actually get away with not using injected CO2:

    Easy stems to grow but I find that needs regular trimming, which is why I went over to anubias, bolbitis, ferns and bucephalandra
    • ludwigia brevipes
    • ludwigia arcuata
    • ludwigia repens
    • ludwigia rubin
    • hydrocotyle leucocephala
    • most cryptocoryne plants
    • Vallisneria
    Great carpeting plants:
    • DHG (Dwarf Hairgrass)
    • Monte Carlo (MC)
    • HM
    • HC
    • glosso - some say it needs injected CO2 but threads on APSA indicate otherwise, it can do without but will grow slow
    • Hydrocotyle tripartita
    • cryptocoryne parva
    Easy low tech but needs wood or stones to be attached to (not too much light)
    • anubias sp small / petite / nana
    • bucephalandra of any kind
    • bolbitis heudelottii
    • java fern
    • needleleaf java fern
    • windelov fern
    • trident fern
    I also would suggest a supplementary addition of liquid carbon (Excel or Scape Liquid Carbon) and you still need to feed the plants - EI or easy way is to get Scape Complete for less fuss if you can afford it. The liquid carbon will help, like I said supplementary, to encourage good growth. Plants can't take in oxygen all the time so it needs CO2 to exchange for oxygen in the water.

    Also just one more question - have you considered that you could add micro/nano fish or not planning to?
     
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    Good Morning, thanks, will take your advice into consideration. I will be adding some rummy nose and some shrimp in at a later stage, just looking to get the tank setup for now. Where can I find PFS soil?
     
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    Pfs - pool filter sand. Any pool shop or builders or....
     
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    What he said ^^

    I got mine in a 40kg bag from the local building store here, thanks to my dad for knowing a few local contacts.

    Hmmm good choice there. Shrimps will be a good cleaning crew for the algae so maybe add them in first? There are many micro fish you can find on the market nowadays - neon blue goby, neon red goby, mountain goby - algae makes up a big part of their diet and I saw a video of @Pierré Schoonraad 's goby eating pellets last night, it was so cute...
     
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    Shrimp don't eat algae unless they are amanos.
     
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    Interesting, you learn something new everyday. I had the impression that all shrimps were algae cleaners. Why else would one feed them stuff that resembles the green stuff?

    I am aware that amanos do eat algae but wasn't aware about the other types not eating it. Correct me if I"m wrong, usually they graze on it more than eat it?
     
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    Red Cherry Shrimp absolutely do eat algae.
    This is a sequence of photos of a clump of hairgrass I put into my shrimp tank as a treat for the shrimp.
    Took 6 hours.

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    wow thats cool hey!
     
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    Interesting. In my experience they eat stuff that collects on algae. Then again I only get gsa and BBA
     
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    Thanks guys for all the help, will definitely post pics as I go along.
     
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    this is incredible!!
     
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    Here are two old tank scapes of mine - mind you they were mostly stems before I got the low tech ferns, buces, anubias and bolbitis:

    40cm cube

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    70cm tank

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